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| + | Triggers when [[Phoenix_Project_research#Pandoravirus_.28800.29)|Pandoravirus research]] is finished by [[File:1pp.png|30px|link=Phoenix Project]] [[Phoenix Project]] | ||
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| + | Our research regarding the nature of the Pandoravirus has caused a great deal of controversy within the factions. | ||
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| + | Tobias West sees our research as confirmation of what New Jericho has always preached: the Pandorans are invaders, a military solution is the only way forward, and anyone who disagrees is helping the enemy. In Synedrion, internal debates rage. What are the socio-political rights of creatures created by a bioweapon? Should we even be trying to co-exist? | ||
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| + | As for the Disciples of Anu, there is no official statement from the Exalted or the Synod of Yearning, but rumors suggest they are neither surprised nor worried. | ||
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| + | [[File:NJ.png|30px|link=New Jericho]] [[New Jericho]]'s attitude to [[File:1pp.png|30px|link=Phoenix Project]] [[Phoenix Project]] <b>+3</b> | ||
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| + | [[File:Synedrion.png|30px]] [[Synedrion]]'s attitude to [[File:1pp.png|30px|link=Phoenix Project]] [[Phoenix Project]] <b>+2</b> | ||
Revision as of 05:33, 18 August 2022
Research reactions
Brain Power
Triggers when
New Jericho researches Neural Implant Technology
Synedrion
Citizen Stas: This New Jericho neural tech we've been hearing about... it sounds like a pretty cool technology, really, but has anyone thought about how easily it could be abused by, uh, I don't know, an autocratic leader with delusions of grandeur?
It is a worrying possibility
It is, isn't it? Sometimes I miss the days when such questions were just science fiction. But I guess sooner or later, the future arrives, and then you have to deal with it.
New Jericho's attitude towards
Synedrion -3
Synedrion's attitude towards
New Jericho -5
Synedrion's attitude to
Phoenix Project +3
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -4
This is just a weak attempt to fix a deeper problem with human biology
That seems like the sort of thing the Exalted would say. But I don't see the problem with the technology itself. Why is a technological fix worse than a biological one?
Hmm, because the biological fix is permanent. I guess I actually kind of see your point... but still, the real problem here is how the technology will be used in the long run.
New Jericho's attitude towards
Synedrion -3
Synedrion's attitude towards
New Jericho -6
Synedrion's attitude to
Phoenix Project -1
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -4
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
Phoenix Project +4
New Jericho is a society of laws and principles. There will be no abuse
You think so? Because to me it seems like these principles never find structural expression and are thrown aside all too easily when it's convenient. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe New Jericho is all you believe it to be. I hope so.
New Jericho's attitude towards
Synedrion -3
Synedrion's attitude towards
New Jericho -5
Synedrion's attitude to
Phoenix Project -3
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project +3
No comment
New Jericho's attitude towards
Synedrion -4
Synedrion's attitude towards
New Jericho -4
The Old Ways
Triggers when:
New Jericho researches Armadillo development
Disciples of Anu Taxiarch Nergal: My sources tell me New Jericho has developed a new type of APC. I hope they intend to use it to fight the Pandorans, not their fellow human beings. But the real question is - how can you win a war if you don't understand the battlefield? Al the vehicles in the world won't help you if you cling to the delusions of the old world. I should know. I remember the wars of the old world better than anyone.
A military victory is possible. Tobias West has a plan
An interesting display of faith. But all the great leaders of the old world thought they had plans, and where are they now?
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
New Jericho -6
Synedrion's attitude to
New Jericho -3
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
Phoenix Project -3
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project +6
New Jericho is the last spasm of a dying order
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
New Jericho -4
Synedrion's attitude to
New Jericho -3
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
Phoenix Project +4
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -5
Humanity needs all the tech it can get
Well... fair enough, actually. But we do have to be careful.
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
New Jericho -4
Synedrion's attitude to
New Jericho -3
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
Phoenix Project +1
The Legend of Fort Bacon
Triggers when
Phoenix Project researches Food Harvesting Technology
New Jericho
Tobias West: Are you aware of the Legend of Fort Bacon? It's a tall tale, a myth of the post-apocalypse, that circulates among our soldiers. It tells of a haven where people have found a way to safely eat the Pandorans... which, if reports are to be believed, actually taste of bacon. It's a very human response, I suppose, not unlike the utopias dreamed up by medieval peasants.
But despite what Synedrion may tell us, there is no land of plenty, no secret have ruled by Prester John. The reality of this world is constant struggle against infection. And I wonder: has the Phoenix Project forgotten that? Have you decided to set up your own little Cockaigne, where the corpses of our enemies are a source of health and happiness?
Harvesting nutrients from Pandorans is a pragmatic choice guided by reason
A logical argument, at least on the surface. But I remember how many irrational policies were justified by an appeal to pragmatism, even as the Pandoravirus was destroying the world we knew. I would advise avoiding short-term thinking, and considering the long-term risks inherent in this technology you have developed. The pandorans are the problem, not the solution.
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -4
New Jericho's attitude to
Synedrion -2
The process is entirely safe. Oposing it because of mysophobia is absurd
To recognize the nature of the war we are fighting is not a type of phobia. I do not ascibe quasi-magical abilities to the pandorans; I merely understand that reasonable precautions are essential. How many innocents died in shelters that were supposed to be safe? How many armies were wiped out by nothing more than clouds of mist? We should never underestimate the Pandoravirus.
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -5
Synedrion's attitude to
Phoenix Project +3
Partaking of the flesh of the enemy is a step towards learning to exist in the new world
It saddens me to hear such foolishness coming from the Phoenix Project. This isn't science, it's superstition.
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -8
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
Phoenix Project +5
The Pandoran Stain
Triggers when Mutagen Harvesting is researched by
Phoenix Project
New Jericho
Tobias West: Do you really think the answers we need as a species lie in Pandoran biology, in plundering the invaders for their mutagens? The Disciples believe that humans need to evolve, to mutate - but don't you see the inherent misanthropy of this philosophy, blaming humanity for what was done to it by an alien aggressor? The very premise is profoundly unethical. If we start telling ourselves that we need the Pandorans in order to improve ourselves... how are we any better than the collaborator who tells himself the enemy will make things better in the long run?
We do what we much to survive
Perhaps... but at what cost? One could argue that the Pandorans themselves are a form of survival; they are part human, and they are alive, so there is biological continuity between us and them. But do they contain any of what is worthwhile about humanity?
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -3
Recognizing humanity's biological flaws is not misanthropy
Not only is it misanthropy, it is also a denial of human agency, of our ability to make choices. At best, it's a way of distracting from failures of the will; at worse, it's outright treason against our species.
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -6
Disciples of Anu's attitude to
Phoenix Project +4
This is none of New Jericho's business
Unfortunately, since our mission is defending humanity from all biological threats, it is our business.
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project -3
The Weapon
Triggers when Pandoravirus research is finished by
Phoenix Project
Our research regarding the nature of the Pandoravirus has caused a great deal of controversy within the factions.
Tobias West sees our research as confirmation of what New Jericho has always preached: the Pandorans are invaders, a military solution is the only way forward, and anyone who disagrees is helping the enemy. In Synedrion, internal debates rage. What are the socio-political rights of creatures created by a bioweapon? Should we even be trying to co-exist?
As for the Disciples of Anu, there is no official statement from the Exalted or the Synod of Yearning, but rumors suggest they are neither surprised nor worried.
New Jericho's attitude to
Phoenix Project +3
Synedrion's attitude to
Phoenix Project +2