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Voland: /* Accuracy */

2021-10-22T16:22:22Z

Accuracy

Voland: /* Melee */

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Melee

Voland: /* Melee */

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Melee

Voland: /* Melee */

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Melee

Voland: /* Detection */

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Detection

Voland: /* Hearing */

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Hearing

Voland: /* Detection */

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Detection

Voland: /* Detection */

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Detection

Voland: /* Armor - what is it good for? */

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Armor - what is it good for?

Voland: /* Damage Map */

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Damage Map

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 ''Many types of armor reduce accuracy. Most notable are heavy armors, and so too does firing the weapon when [[File:Adrenaline_rush.png|30px|Link=character Development#adrenaline rush|Adrenaline Rush]] [[Classes_and_Skills#adrenaline rush|Adrenaline Rush]] has been activated or without having the required weapon [[#proficiency|proficiency]].''
-Increasing or reducing Accuracy means that the aiming reticle gets larger, or smaller by the % of the increase or decrease.
+Increasing or reducing Accuracy means that the aiming reticle gets larger, or smaller by a factor related to the % of the increase or decrease.
-<i>The game always operates in terms of size of the aiming reticle. [[#effective range|Effective Range]] is a value to illustrate it to the player for easy of reference, and this is why weapons have odd [[#effective range|Effective Range]] numbers such as "51" or  similar.</i>
+<i>The game always operates in terms of size of the aiming reticle, <code>SpreadDegrees</code> (the larger this value, the bigger the aiming reticle, and thus the lower the accuracy). [[#effective range|Effective Range]] is a value to illustrate it to the player for easy of reference, and this is why weapons have odd [[#effective range|Effective Range]] numbers such as "51" or  similar.</i>
-As an example, an operative with [[File:Master_marksman2.png|30px|link=character_Development#Master marksman]] [[Classes_and_Skills#marksman|Master Marksman]] will see the Accuracy increased by 30% (provided there are no enemies within 10 tiles), which means that the aiming reticle will be reduced in size by 30%. Conversely, a soldier firing a weapon after activating [[File:Adrenaline_rush.png|30px|Link=character Development#adrenaline rush|Berserker]]
+As an example, an operative with [[File:Master_marksman2.png|30px|link=character_Development#Master marksman]] [[Classes_and_Skills#marksman|Master Marksman]] will see the Accuracy increased by 30% (provided there are no enemies within 10 tiles), which means that the aiming reticle will shrink, to be that resulting of dividing its original size by 1.3. Conversely, a soldier firing a weapon after activating [[File:Adrenaline_rush.png|30px|Link=character Development#adrenaline rush|Berserker]]
-[[Classes_and_Skills#adrenaline rush|Adrenaline Rush]] will have Accuracy decreased by 50%, which means the aiming reticle will grow 50% in size.
+[[Classes_and_Skills#adrenaline rush|Adrenaline Rush]] will have Accuracy decreased by 50%, which means the aiming reticle will grow, its original size multiplied by 1.5.
 Another way of looking at it is that each weapon comes with an aiming reticle of a certain size. For example, a [[File:1firebird.png|30px|link=Sniper weapons]] [[Sniper_weapons|Firebird SR]] has a smaller reticle, a [[File:1hel.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Hel 2 Cannon]] a much bigger reticle, and an [[File:1ares.png|30px|link=Assault_weapons]] [[Assault_weapons|ARES assault rifle]] is somewhere between the two. The size of the reticle will then vary depending on the [[Classes and Skills#skill|skills]], [[personal perks]], [[#armor|armor]] and [[#augmentations|augmentations]] of the soldier.

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 <i><b> numbers in example below need review</i></b>
-Because bash scales with [[character Development#attributes|strength]], it can actually do as much as damage as a melee weapon (for example, [[File:1marduk.png|30px|link=Berserker_weapons#marduk|Marduk's Fist]] [[Berserker_weapons|Marduk's Fist]]) but for half the [[#aps|AP]]. A character with 32 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] (that can be achieved with max 30 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] and the [[File:Resourceful.png|30px|link=Personal_perks]] [[Personal_perks|resourceful third-row skill]] wielding a heavy weapon (e.g. [[File:1deceptor.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Deceptor]] [[File:1hel.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Hel 2 Cannon]], [[File:1goliath.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Goliath GL2]] - all of which weigh 5 units ''... and an additional +3 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] can be obtained by completing Project Vulture'') will do 32 * 5 = 160. This is a 100% increase in damage per AP, but really anything above 80 damage (that is, with [[character Development#attributes|strength]] of 17 or more) would seem to make bash preferable to melee.
+Because bash scales with [[character Development#attributes|strength]], it can actually do almost as much damage as a melee weapon (for example, [[File:1marduk.png|30px|link=Berserker_weapons#marduk|Marduk's Fist]] [[Berserker_weapons|Marduk's Fist]]) but for half the [[#aps|AP]]. A character with 42 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] (that can be achieved with max 35 [[character Development#attributes|strength]], the [[File:Resourceful.png|30px|link=Personal_perks]] [[Personal_perks|resourceful third-row skill]], the Strongman perk and the additional +3 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] obtained by completing Project Vulture, wielding a heavy weapon (e.g. [[File:1deceptor.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Deceptor]] [[File:1hel.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Hel 2 Cannon]], [[File:1goliath.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Goliath GL2]] - all of which weigh 5 units ) will do 42 * 5 * 0.7575 = 159. This is a 100% increase in damage per AP, but really anything above 80 damage (that is, with [[character Development#attributes|strength]] of 21 or more) would seem to make bash preferable to melee.
 There are a few caveats, however:

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 ''Neither attack triggers [[file:return_fire.png|30px|link=classes and Skills#return fire]] [[character Development#return fire|Return Fire]]''
-''Both attacks benefit from [[file:Brawler.png|30px|link=character Development#brawler]] [[character Development#brawler|Brawler]] and [[file:close_quarters_specialist.png|30px|link=personal perks]][[personal perks|Close Quarters Specialist]] third-row skill (Proficiency and 20% damage buff with shotguns and melee weapons)''
+''Both attacks benefit from [[file:Brawler.png|30px|link=character Development#brawler]] [[character Development#brawler|Brawler]] and [[file:close_quarters_specialist.png|30px|link=personal perks]][[personal perks|Close Quarters Specialist]] third-row skill (20% damage buff with melee weapons and 20% accuracy buff for shotguns)''
 Striking with a dedicated melee weapon requires to be on an adjacent tile to the target and to be [[#proficiency|proficient]] in melee weapons (otherwise there is a 50% to 'fumble', i.e. fail to do the attack after spending the APs on it). All melee weapons cost 2APs to strike with (though in the Blood and Titanium DLC there is a bionic augmentation, [[File:Vengeance_torso.png|40px|link=Bionics]] [[Bionics|Vengeance Torso]] that grants the [[File:Combat_matrix.png|30px]] combat matrix ability, which reduces the cost of using melee weapons by 1AP, to a minimum of 1AP).

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 Bashing with an item an adjacent enemy is always available, provided that the soldier’s arms have not been disabled (for items requiring 2 arms to operate, both arms are needed to bash with the item) and always costs 1 [[#aps|AP]].
-<code>The damage of the bash attack is calculated by multiplying the weight of the item used for bashing by the [[character Development#attributes|strength]] of the character doing it</code>. So a soldier with 15 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] wielding an [[File:1ares.png|30px|assault weapons|Ares AR-1]] [[assault weapons|Ares AR-1]] that weighs 3 units will do 3*15=45 [[#Standard Damage|damage]] with the bash.
+<code>The damage of the bash attack is calculated by multiplying the weight of the item used for bashing by the [[character Development#attributes|strength]] of the character doing it by 0.7575</code>. So a soldier with 15 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] wielding an [[File:1ares.png|30px|assault weapons|Ares AR-1]] [[assault weapons|Ares AR-1]] that weighs 3 units will do 3*15*0
-<code>The item that is used for bashing will also suffer 25% of the damage inflicted with the bash, calculated without subtracting armor or taking into account bonus to damage from [[geoscape#Vivisection|vivisection research]]</code> However, all human weapons have 20 armor and the damage to the weapon will be reduced by its armor. Even so, brittle weapons like [[Sniper weapons|sniper rifles]] make for poor candidates despite having considerable weight.
+<code>The item that is used for bashing will also suffer 45% of the damage inflicted with the bash, calculated without subtracting armor or taking into account bonus to damage from [[geoscape#Vivisection|vivisection research]]</code> However, all human weapons have 20 armor and the damage to the weapon will be reduced by its armor. Even so, brittle weapons like [[Sniper weapons|sniper rifles]] make for poor candidates despite having considerable weight.
 ''(Weapons that get damaged in combat will be automatically repaired after the battle, but not so the weapons that are destroyed)''
 Because bash scales with [[character Development#attributes|strength]], it can actually do as much as damage as a melee weapon (for example, [[File:1marduk.png|30px|link=Berserker_weapons#marduk|Marduk's Fist]] [[Berserker_weapons|Marduk's Fist]]) but for half the [[#aps|AP]]. A character with 32 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] (that can be achieved with max 30 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] and the [[File:Resourceful.png|30px|link=Personal_perks]] [[Personal_perks|resourceful third-row skill]] wielding a heavy weapon (e.g. [[File:1deceptor.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Deceptor]] [[File:1hel.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Hel 2 Cannon]], [[File:1goliath.png|30px|link=Heavy_weapons]] [[Heavy_weapons|Goliath GL2]] - all of which weigh 5 units ''... and an additional +3 [[character Development#attributes|strength]] can be obtained by completing Project Vulture'') will do 32 * 5 = 160. This is a 100% increase in damage per AP, but really anything above 80 damage (that is, with [[character Development#attributes|strength]] of 17 or more) would seem to make bash preferable to melee.

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 =<span id="detection"></span>Detection=
 When do you spot enemies and when do they spot you?
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 So, if Bob has a [[character Development#perception|perception]] of 35 ''(base [[character Development#perception|perception]] of all human characters)'', he will detect all enemies with =<0% [[character Development#stealth|stealth]] within his [[#los|Line of Sight (LOS)]] within 35 tiles. He will also detect enemies further away if they have a negative [[character Development#stealth|stealth]] [[character Development#attributes|attribute]] (which is usually derived from wearing heavy armor, see [[character Development#stealth buffs|here]] all the things that increase or decrease the [[character Development#stealth|stealth]] of a character). For example, Bob will detect enemies 49 tiles away within [[#los|LOS]] whose [[character Development#stealth|stealth]] is - 40%. Similarly, Bob will be detected by enemies depending on his [[character Development#stealth|stealth]] and the [[character Development#perception|perception]] of his enemies. Bob will also alert enemies to his presence by shooting a non-silenced weapon.
-You can calculate the range at which any enemy will detect one of your operatives: just check the [[character Development#perception|perception]] [[character Development#attributes|attribute]] of the enemy, adjust it with your operative's [[character Development#stealth|stealth]], and count the tiles. ''Not that I suggest doing it before making every move…'' And since Behemoth (1.1) update of May 2021 you no longer have to! <span style="color:green">Just hover the pointer over an enemy and an orange circle will indicate the range at which it can detect the currently selected character</span> <i>Observe how during daytime missions most enemies can see most of your operatives from very far away</i>
+You can calculate the range at which any enemy will detect one of your operatives: just check the [[character Development#perception|perception]] [[character Development#attributes|attribute]] of the enemy, adjust it with your operative's [[character Development#stealth|stealth]], and count the tiles. ''Not that I suggest doing it before making every move…'' <b>And since Behemoth (1.1) update of May 2021 you no longer have to!</b> <span style="color:green">Just hover the pointer over an enemy and an orange circle will indicate the range at which it can detect the currently selected character</span> <i>Observe how during daytime missions most enemies can see most of your operatives from very far away</i>
 The size of the character is also relevant for detection purposes: large Pandorans like [[file:Chiron icon.png|30px|link=

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 ==Hearing==
-Characters can make noise that reveals their position to the enemies. When your operatives hear other characters (enemies or neutrals) you will see a red 'ping', and the AI can similarly pin-point the location of your operatives by the noise they make. Certain actions are apparently so noisy that will
+When your operatives hear other characters (enemies or neutrals) you will see a red 'ping', and the AI can similarly pin-point the location of your operatives by the noise they make. Certain actions are apparently so noisy that they will be heard at any distance, such as using non-silenced weapons, opening doors, breaking windows, jumping from a height, etc. Also, all characters have a base hearing range of 5 tiles, at which they will hear unseen characters even if they are not doing anything loud.
 =<span id="melee"></span>Melee=

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	<i>There is a higher chance that unalerted enemies will patrol in the direction of your undetected operatives. This is the only way the AI "cheats"</i>		<i>There is a higher chance that unalerted enemies will patrol in the direction of your undetected operatives. This is the only way the AI "cheats"</i>
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		+	Characters can make noise that reveals their position to the enemies. When your operatives hear other characters (enemies or neutrals) you will see a red 'ping', and the AI can similarly pin-point the location of your operatives by the noise they make. Certain actions are apparently so noisy that will
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		+	For starters, all characters have a hearing range of 5 tiles, at which they will hear an enemy character

	=<span id="melee"></span>Melee=		=<span id="melee"></span>Melee=

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	Tier 3 armors would be the specialist Infiltrator, Technician and Priest sets.		Tier 3 armors would be the specialist Infiltrator, Technician and Priest sets.
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−	The Priest armor set (body and legs) <s>is simply not very good and is easily outperformed by any Tier 2 armor set, perhaps with the exception of the Berserker set, which is also unjustifiably bad.</s> <i>This has been changed in the YEO/Polaris update, with Priest armor now granting a bonus to accuracy; I'm still testing it atmo</i>

	The Technician helmet is the one straight upgrade I can think of when comparing it to Assault Armors - it has the highest armor rating (25) and grants +5 to Accuracy, with only a minor penalty to Stealth (-5%), easily making it the best helmet for the Assault class. It does cost a little bit more. <i>Before YEO/Polaris update the bonus to accuracy was 10%</i>		The Technician helmet is the one straight upgrade I can think of when comparing it to Assault Armors - it has the highest armor rating (25) and grants +5 to Accuracy, with only a minor penalty to Stealth (-5%), easily making it the best helmet for the Assault class. It does cost a little bit more. <i>Before YEO/Polaris update the bonus to accuracy was 10%</i>

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	==Damage Map==		==Damage Map==
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		+	<b> Pending update after changes to Sneak Attack, reducing buff from 100% to 50% (if I ever get to it!) </b>

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